Jim Gaffigan, stand-up comedian and actor extraordinaire, and I jump onto Zoom and get to talking about:

• his badass role in a new film, Most Wanted

• the pandemic

• the current mood on social media

• what he learned in therapy

• riding the ups and downs of his career

• renting a house in upstate New York

• our New York Times piece

  (I wrote it. He “starred” in it.)

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